exomeme | part one thirty two

instead of just opgers names, we can now use this thread to talk about pairings

i like the way you think anon

ready to spam all my delulu

i feel that the reason we make friends in fandom is so we can talk to someone who can accept our delulu but meme is something too general, somehow someone would always be ready to jump on our trip

yeah i hope meme can be more accepting of delulu comments tbh

it hurts no one

some anons just like to play nega :(

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i love to read about delulu comments for all pairings tbh. they are fun c:

random lay thoughts for anons that want to discuss meta with me

ok so yixing is pretty obsessed with bowing and being polite and courteous, but i've noticed he also always remembers to call people hyung/ge which seems pretty consistent with the rest of his personality but it seems to be a one-sided? like for the rest of the older half of exo, they seem pretty concerned when their dongsaengs forget to call them hyung or speak too casually with them, but yixing doesn't? which isn't what you'd usually expect from someone who is interested in korean manners. i think he might be hesitant to assert his authority by the rules of korean hyung/dongsaeng relationships but seems to be more than willing to adhere to them when he's in the lower position.

honestly yixing seems pretty obsessed with humility and that's my explanation for his behavior above. whether you think his humility is actually genuine or not is up to you, but you can't deny that he at least is obsessed with at least appearing humble. and i think him asserting himself as hyung might seem to him as presumptuous when in fact it isn't in korea, which leads me to think he might misunderstand korean culture a little bit because he's worried about offending people in a new culture. he probably got reminded all the time by his parents or other chinese people (and also probably people at sm) how much koreans adhere to their social heirarchy and how much they value manners so he probably plays it safe by always leaning on the side of "too polite" and takes the position of someone in the lower social position while not correcting others when they transgress the same rules (like how kris always reminds people when they forget to add "hyung" but idt yixing would do that). all this and i think he's just a laidback person in general.

one of several reasons why yaja time with yixing would not be fun

hmmm i think i'm going to bring in perspective as someone who's chinese but even though chinese culture doesn't have a strict age thing like korea does, chinese culture does place a lot of emphasis on respect and humility. to put things in perspective, there's a story about the most filial man - as a boy, his mom beat him a lot but he never cried, as he grew up he took the exams for government and did well and got in and his mom still beat him and he never cried, and one day when he's this really bigshot, his mom beats him, and he starts crying - when she asks him why he never cried but only cried now, when it doesn't even hurt, he says it's because he knows that she always beat him for his own good, but now that it doesn't hurt, it's because she's old but she's still trying to steer him on the right path. ofc this is more of an older generation but i feel like yixing was brought up very well in that sense, and he'd have the stories of respect and humility drilled into him. so he'd be very particular about treating everyone around him with respect, even if it's more respect than he has to. by being humble, he's doing well for himself? as in it's a good trait. it's kind of an old-fashioned way of thinking probably but considering how he also said he wants a girl who's filial, it kind of matches.

but lol yaja time with yixing u___u he'd be the most boring person ever

the value of humility is definitely strong with all asian cultures and ymmv with how much that societal standard affects you as an individual (yixing seems particularly sensitive to it) but i think he might conflate making someone call you hyung as a humility issue when it fact it has nothing to do with being humble. it seems like he's more uncomfortable taking on roles of hyung (and later, sunbae) than he is as a dongseng because he sees them as positions of power and maybe haughtiness?

ohhhh i see, yeah i'd agree with that. he pretty much shies away from anything that might imply a position of power. i think he also doesn't see himself as the best of anything? he's always quick to put himself somewhere in the middle, like in that happy camp thing, or when they were like who's the best dancer (although it is against kai so).

yeah i don't think he thinks himself as best of anything either (which is kinda true but nevermind that) and ofc he wouldn't want to assert himself as dance equals to kai especially since kai's been dancing and training for a lot longer and everyone in exo/sm considers kai heads and shoulders above everyone else in exo. i kinda find kaixing relationship really odd because kai is also someone who is polite and always uses hyung/elevated speech but he's the sunbae and yixing considers him like a dance teacher/mentor so there's kind of an unspoken, awkward power dynamic there. idk how suho relates to him since they're same aged friends but suho is also chingus with 90-line and other sunbaes so it's probably even more confusing for yixing. i hope dage teaches him the subtleties of korean manner culture and we see yixing hyung come out a bit more (although sehun probably wouldn't like that too much lol)

although i love qt dongseng yixing, it'd be interesting to see how he reacts to being a sunbae a few years down the road and interacting with newly debuted rookies (that is, if he interacts at all ;;)

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also on a side note i feel like humility might also get in the way of his performing sometimes? like he seems so preoccupied with doing all the technically "right" things for the audience, which in his mind is hitting all his steps and executing the choreography as he learned it, but it also takes a bit of something extra, something slightly selfish and narcissistic, to make a compelling performer and not treating every chance at being on stage as a gift that you're unworthy of. not saying you can't be a great performer and a humble person but it's hard to balance both if your philosophy is so strongly rooted in the latter.

cries at ray ge being the best at nothing ;; but yeah i think he might be conflating age hierarchy with one of respect. also im pretty sure hes called suho hyung before and suho told him to stop calling him hyung or am i imagining that? yixing hyunggggg i feel like every time we've seen him it's been as a dongsaeng or as a baby. except maybe that something different episode where they talked about how he was music club vp. lol at sehun. sehun just likes taking advantage of his hyungs and being cute

ughhhhhh and yes. it's always so interesting watching him dance next to kai, or even minseok. those two are really self assured and confident in themselves in a way yixing isn't - like he's confident in getting things on point and getting the steps right but when it comes to his own skill ;;;

i'm not sure about that sulay moment you're talking about or that interview where they talked about him being vp /o\ i'm a bad stan ig

yixing seems kind of treats idoldom as a paint-by-numbers exercise sometimes. like on one hand, he did all that was required of him in order to debut but i think he needs to realize that post-debut idol is completely different from pre-debut trainee and just being respected for working hard and being polite and waving to fans isn't the end all be all for idols. i hope he learns to be a little more creative(?) in his public life and hope he doesn't strain himself too hard to stay inside his self-created box in the meantime

ughhh i can't find it either so now i'm just confused but there's a bit on here where they talk about how he was like in school

ohhh paint by numbers is a good way to put it. i think he does know that he needs to do more though? once he said that he wants fans to remember the him on stage that's happy and cheerful. the other thing is compared to how he was at debut he's really come out of his shell? baby steps ;; on the other hand it's really hard to say since all we've had is a few eps of showtime and he hasn't been doing that badly? i mean even on meme he's been gaining fans for being cute and he does recognise the importance of being on the camera unlike lu who has perpetual camera/stage fright

please continue discussing this, i'm finding it all v interesting i already agreed in a few points superficially but you anons are going deep and i like it

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